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arSemdgari skandali skandalurad dasrulda! marTalia baTumSi geebma Tavisi ukanali ver gamofines, magram es imas ar niSnavs rom qarTulma nacionalizmma evropasa da amerikas fuli ver aaxia. arSemdgari, magram imitirebuli paradisaTvis `qronikisaTvis~ mowodebuli informaciiT arasamTavrobo seqtoris aferadebuli ramdenime organizacia 10 milioniani grantiT dajildovda, xolo organizatorad gamocxadebul an miCneul pirebs `demokratiis oazisSi~ farTod da samudamod gauRes kari... mokled, yvelam Taviseburad isiamovna. 

magaliTad, baTumis meriam gamoacxada – ra paradi, ris paradi, CvenTan ganacxadi ar Semosulao, saidan moitaneT, vis dagesizmraTo da marTlmadideblobis damcvelis iarliyis mikvra moiwadina. saqarTveloSi Camosuli `daCagruli~ cisferebic nasiamovnebi darCnen – msoflios Tavi Seacodes, umciresoba varT jer kidevo da saakaSvilis rezidenciaSi (sadac ubatonod Citic ki ver Sefrindeba iseTi gaZlierebuli dacva icavs) `SeratonSic~ gaaTenes ramdenime Rame, rogorc amboben saxelmwifos xarjze. marTlmadideblurma eklesiam ki mTavrobas daanaxa rom jer kidev brZolisunariani mrevli yavs, xolo Tavad mTavarma xelisufalma dainaxa rom mocisferebul `kreslo~ Tavze rom ar daemxos kidev ufro unda gaZlierdes, risTvisac albaT daWerobanas TamaSs gaaZlierebs... `qronikis~ mopovebuli informaciiT baTumSi yvelaze meti gei somxeTidan da azerbaijanidan iyo warmodgenili, nacarSi Cavardnili `gei-kovzis~ gamowmenda saakaSvilma meore dResve scada da am qveynis studentebi saxelmwifo dafinansebaSi Casva... nacionalur sinamdvileSi es iyo gei-paradis Catarebis meore mcdeloba. pirvelad ramdenime wlis win iTqva, Tumca arSedga. meored axla, amjerad nawilobriv Sedga, mesamed ra iqneba kacma ara, magram albaT, miSam mainc icis. imitirebul gei-parads win uswrebda internetforumebze atexili aJiotaJi da mosalodneli paradis Sesaxeb marCieloba. miuxedavad cnobili faqtisa internetforumebs vano merabiSvili rom akontrolebs, paradis Sesaxeb gaJRerebulma informaciam yvelaze dinji adamianebic ki amoagdo kalapotidan. aq mTavari isic iyo, rom Tavad xelisufleba arc uaryofda da arc adasturebda am informacias. piriqiT vera qobalias dam (yovelSemTxvevaSi ase gavrcelda) internetSi specialurad cisferebis gverdic ki Seqmna da iseTi muskulebiani biWebis suraTebi gamofina, TviT yvelaze did aTletsac rom SeSurdeba. axla ukve irkveva rom es iyo mizanmimarTulad gakeTebuli da gaJRerebuli. bolosdabolos paradis Caratebis konkretuli TariRis dasaxeleba im qveyanaSi sadac zustad ici rom ar Cagatarebineben da ici rom SeiZleba sisxlic daiRvaros provokaciaa da meti araferi. 26 agvistos gaTenebas yvela SiSiT rom elodeboda arc es araa sadavo. daZabulobis bolo wveTi `cisferebis~ SeratonSi gamoCena iyo. `cisferebis~ armia ki ara erTi pedarastis bulvarSi gavlac religiuri omis tolfasi rom iqneboda es kargad unda codnoda xelisuflebas, romelmac Turme aRlumis nebarTva mxolod imitom ar gasca, rom arc aravin mimarTa. sakiTxavia rom miemarTaT ar miscemdnen?  miscemdnen da ara marto nebarTvas... amasac ukidegano demokratiiT axsnidnen da vinc gaaprotestebda yvelas Tavs imave braldebiT ukravdnen cixeSi ra braldebiTac daakaves `marTlmadidebluri kavSiris~ wevrebi... es arc miSas ukvirs da vanos miTumetes. vanoze gamaxsenda. baTumSi vano swored im saRamos dainaxes roca gei paradis dawyebis Sesaxeb beTumelebma sms-bi miiRes...

erTi kargi da Zveli baTumeli megobari myavs. SuaRamisas damireka, meubneba: daaxloebiT 7 am 8 saaTi iqneboda sms-i miviRe: `gamodiT bulvarSi gei paradi iwyeba~, raRac ucnauri nomeri iyo, principSi arc nomeri iTqmis, egreve gavvardi. bulvarSi Zalian bevri xalxi damxvda. iq myofi TiTqmis yvela ambobda rom sms-ebi miiRes da amitom gamovidnen... Cems baTumel megobarze met informacias Salva xaWapuriZe flobs. manac SuaRamisas damireka: gaige, baTumSi mRvdlebi komblebiT xelSi gamovidnen, sul mamao-Cveno azaxebines vanos biWebs, gavigeb detalebs da dagirekav xval. Sakvam xaWapuriZem `xval~ damireka da iseTebi Tqva, Rirs xalxmac icodes.

`qronikas~ esaubreba Salva xaWapuriZe:

_ pedarastebi baTumSi sastumro `SeratonSi~, sadac faqtiurad cxovrobs saqarTvelos prezidenti, iyvnen dabinavebulebi. 26-Si isini gareT gamosvlas ver axerxebdnen, imitom rom iq mividnen sasuliero pirebi da daaxloebiT 5 aTasamde adamiani. xalxma ma Tar misca `paradis~ Catarebis saSualeba. xalxi quCaSi gamosvlas win uswrebda sms-i, romelic baTumelebma da iq myofebma miiRes. mogexsenebaT rom am codvis Zalian bevri mimdevari romlebic sakmaod maRal Tanamdebobaze arian mokalaTebulni faraven Tavis orientacias, zogi biznesSia, zogi politikaSi da sakmaod kargad grZnoben Tavs. zogs col-Svilic ki yavs. swored aseTi kategoriis adamianebs aSantaJewbda uSiSroeba da aiZulebda Casuliyvnen baTumSi. mokled, uSiSroebas wirdeboda stumari cisferebisTvis eCvenebina adgilobrivi cisferebi. ra daskvnis gakeTeba SeiZleba amiT? ratom unda undodes marTlmadidebluri saxelmwifos xelisuflebas msgavsi paradis Catareba da aseTi adamianebis afiSireba? ori mizani amoZravebda xelisuflebas: maT undaT amerikisa da evropis TvalSi gadafaron totaluri reJimi (Tumca evropisaTvis demokratia sulac araa pedarastoba) da meore, aq Zalian did fulzea saubari. damaluli araa rom magaliTad strasburgis meri iyo cisferi, ori Tvis win didi britaneTis premier ministris moadgile imitom gadagda rom mas xarjTaRricxvaSi aRmouCines zedmeti Tanxis daxarjva da gairkva rom man es Tanxa moaxmara Tavisi `megobari~ mamakacis saxlis remonts. raRa Sors wavide saqarTveloSi erT-erTi saelCos warmomadgeneli `col-qmari~ mamakacebi arian. es xom faqtia, romelsac gverds ver auvli. axla ismis kiTxva - ratom SeiZleba gaegzavnaT xalisTvis sms-ebi? anu xalxi unda gamosuliyo, unda momxdariyo Sejaxeba, mere dajdebodnen viTom arasamTavroebi da daicavdnen `sawyal cisferebs~, wamovidoda da wamovidoda uzarmazari granti.

_ rogorc amboben axlac wamovida.

_ magram 10 milioni da ara 100, rasac elodnen. ase gaigeT xom Tqvenc? mec!

_ xelisufleba ambobs rom gei-aRlumis Casatareblad nebarTva ar qonda gacemuli im ubralo mizezit rom arc ki miumarTavs aravis. baTumis meria gakvirvebulia, ver gaugia ras aprotestebda mrevli da sasuliero pirebi.

_ ras getyvi ici? eg sakenki dauyaron TavianT yurmoWril monebs. sapatriarqos warmomadgeneli, mama mixeil botkovelma oficialuri gancxadeba gaakeTa da xelisuflebas mouwoda gaakeTeT yvelaferi rom gei aRlumi ar Catardeso. am gancxadebas damoukideblad arc erTi sasuliero piri ar gaakeTebda, xo? es modioda patriarqisgan. rodesac Sen konkordati gaqvs dadebuli eklesiasTan da sapatriarqo aseT gancxadebas akeTebs, xelisufali valdebuli xar saTqmeli Tqva. enawamogdebuli ministrebi rom yavT da tlikinis mets arafers akeTeben, erTi mainc gamosuliyo da eTqva ara, batono, xmebi romelic vrceldeba gamogoniliao. ar SeeZloT 26 agvistomde es eTqvaT? xelisuflebam xom icis rom xalxis talRa, cnobiereba evropisa da amerikisken iqneboda mimarTuli. ruseTi xom gadavimtereT da axla amerikis da evropis gadamtereba gvaklia.

_ sms-ebis gagzavna ras emsaxureboda?

_ me getyvit ra samsaxurebi arsebobs mand. SegiZliaT Sesabamis operatorTan  gaaformoT xelSekruleba romelic sakmaod Zviri jdeba, amoirCioT regioni, am SemTxvevaSi vTqvaT aWara. operatorebi anZis mixedviT adgenen misi abonetebi sad imyofebian da agzavnian sms. es sms-ebi me da Sen ar mogvsvlia, miuvida mxolod aWaraSi myofebs. es sms-ebi uSiSroebam daagzavna da gamoiyvana xalxi quCaSi. rame rom momxdariyo ityodnen – naxeT am demokratebs ra giJebTan gvaqvs saqme, 30 aTasi patimaric amitom gvyavs, Torem gana gvexaliseba xalxis dakavebao.

_ gasagebia, magram baTumSi gamosuli `giJebis~ umetesoba sasuliero piri iyo.

_ Sen ginda Tqva rom mRvdeli jer ar dauWeriaT? pirveli rac gaakeTa am xelisuflebam berebs Seuvarda senakebSi Tu gaxsobs. eklesiebis dangrevaze arafers vilaparakeb. ar dagaviwydes bolo 1 TveSi 8 adamiani daakaves romelTac marTlmadideblobis dacva moindomes. msoflioSi 5-6 saxelmwifoa marTlmadidebluri, romlis centrad saqarTvelo iqca. rogor ggoniaT amas dauSvebs saakaSvilis msgavsi xelisufali? amerikaSi amas winaT mowveuli iyo kongresi, romelic marTlmadideblebma Caatares, magram mas sxvadasxva religiisa da mimdevrobis warmomadgenlebic eswrebodnen. ar gainteresebT sami dRis Semdeg riTi damTavrda konferencia? 120 monawile piridan 80 marTlmadideblurad moinaTla. es iciT ras niSnavs? Tan eseni ar iyvnen TavianT religiur mimarTulebaSi ierarqiiT dabali donis. gei-paradi mimarTuli iyo amisken marTlmadideblobas moxvedroda Solti da kavkasiaSi warmovCeniliyaviT yvelaze cud erad.

_ ise ki mindoda Catarebuliyo es paradi, netav vin gamovidoda, sainteresoa.

_ sxvaTaSoris yvelaze meti gei somxeTidan da azerbaijanidan iyo Camosuli. erTi saqarTvelodan somxeTSi wasuli gei Jurnalisti baTumSi brZandeboda. aq iyvnen amerikidan, evropis qveynebidan Camosulebic, magram yvelaze meti kavkasiidan iyo  Camosuli. bevri qarTveli homoseqsuali azerbaijanSi rom aris gadasuli da iq cxovrobs ici? maT Soris Zalian bevri yofili Tqveni kolegebia. quCaSi ratom ver gamovidnen? SeeSindaT da imitom, ar elodnen amdeni adamiani Tu mividoda iq.

_ aris informacia, rom berezovskis baTumSi yofnis dros, mas undoda marTlmadideblur eklesiaSi Sesvla. am survilis asasruleblad berezovskis daxmareba gadauwyvetiaT givi TargamaZes da mis dabadebis dReze myof nacionalebs, magram aramarTlmadidebeli berezovskisTvis arc mrevls da arc samRvdelo pirebs ar miuciaT saSualeba eklesiaSi jvari daewera. swored 23 ivliss uTqvamT nacionalebs rom amas aWarel mRvdlebs ar apatiebdnen. xom ar fiqrobT rom es yvelaferi mxolod imitom gakeTda Semdeg saitebze dadebuliyo damcinavi statiebi – marTlmadideblebi cisferebs eZebdnen d aver ipoves da ase Semdeg, rac gakeTda kidec 26 agvistos Semdeg? isic ki iTqva rom am gei-aRlumis erT-erT damfinansebli berezovskiao.

_ es informacia mec vici, magram ras getyvi ici? berezovski is kaci araa rom iZaxoda patarkaciSvilis mkvlelobas ar SevarCen am xelisuflebaso. me ver gavige saqarTveloSi gei-aRlumebi ar daafinansos sxva saqme ara aqvs? arada faqtia... anu mas sxva miznebi amoZravebs da saerTod daanebos am kacma saqarTvelos Tavi. ra Tqma unda realuria es rac miTxari.

_ axla ise gamovida rom xalxi quCaSi arafris gamo gamovida.

_ es iyo xelisuflebis agorebuli im krizisis dasafarad rac realobaa. gamodis es meoTxeklaseli soflis meurneobis ministry da axla eZebs puri sad iyidos, araferi muSaobs piaris da Sss-s garda am qveyanaSi. ra vano merabiSvilma Tu sms-ebi gaagzavna da xalxs mouwoda quCaSi gamodiTi, ar SeeZloT igive xerxiT daegzavnaT sms-ebi da eTqvaT xalxisTvis arc araferi xdebao? ara, awyobdaT aJiotaJi, magram is ever gaartyes asianSi rogorc undodaT. erT saintereso faqts getyviT. karga xnis win foTSi tardeboda seminari, romelsac maSindeli uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare lado Wanturiac eswreboda. iq iyo erTi amerikeli stumris statusiT. sadilis dros es amerikeli ambobs, me Seviswavle religiis kuTxiT situacia da aRmoCnda rom yvelaze Raribi da yvelaze dabalganviTarebuli saxelmwifoebi arian is saxelmwifoebi sadac marTlmadidebloba saxelmwifo religiadaa gamocxdaebuli, albaT dadga dro roca qartvelma erma kaTolikobaze unda ifiqroTo. gamgebi gaigebs ra vTqvi axla me... imedia Tqvenc gaigebT.

_ ki, gavige, mgoni romeliRaca ministri kaTolike gvyavs.

_ iciT im seminarze reebi moxda? gavgiJdiT kinaRam, lado Wanturiam romelic cnobilia rogorc Zalian TavSekavebuli adamiani, Tavi ver Seikava. lados garda mec Cemi saTqmeli vTqvi...

_ rogor xdeba ver amixsnia, egeb gamarkvieoT. xelisufleba ambobs me ar vici ra da sad tardebao. nebarTva ar gamivciao, am dros es pedarastebi SeratonSi iyrian Tavs...

_ iq Sesvla ase advili ggonia? iq saakaSvili cxovrobs, ase rom dacvis samsaxuri gaZlierebulia. nomrebSi ras akeTebdnen cisferebi ar vici magram gareT rom ver gamodiodnen es cxadia. eklesia saxelmwifoSi saxelmwifoa da roca gancxadebas akeTebs iq ase advilad ver gaitans verc xelisufleba da verc sxva Tavisas. kidev erTi, rameze uTqvams xelisuflebas vakeTeb amas da gamodiT Cems winaarmdego? sakuTari TvaliT rom dainaxo, TvalSi nacars Segayrian mogelandao. raRa erTad moiyares Tavi niderlandelma, holandielma, somexma, azerbaijanelma `damsveneblebma~, erT dRes gadmolaxes sazRvari da erT sastumroSi dabinavdnen? Tan ar dagaviwydeT nomrebis saxelobiTi dajavSna ar fiqsirdeba. wesiT ase araa? winaswar dajavSni nomers sakuTar an im gvariT vinc Camosvlas apirebs. an sasatumroebis meti araferi Sendeba da rara `Seratons~ miawydnen jguf-jgufad? vitom Wkvianurad gaakeTes es yvelaferi? me saqmis kursSi ara varo? fici mwams bolo makvirvebs. raRa Sens sastumros moadgnen pedarastebi batono prezidento? a? yvelaferi SeiZleba daabralo saakaSvils, magram homoseqsualiao ver ityvi, magram mis sastumroSi imitom mividnen cisferebi, rom iq dacvis meti garantia qondat da daicves kidec. arc aravin mokida xeli, magram agresia unda gamoxatliyo, raTa nacionalebs eTqvaT aha, rogori demokratia gvaqvs da ra velurebSi vcxovrobTo. ase rom es iyo politikuri aqcia romelic deda-eklesiis winaaRmdeg iyo mimarTuli.